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Mits 110-SZ edge finding issue

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92 Mits DWC110-SZ

Set up a part today, located it in and went about the job. Finished it up and setup for the next (repeat part), but when I went to locate the edges I got all sorts of weird things... Seemed like the ability of the machine to pick up the continuity varied widely. Edge find once and set zero, double check and was off by .010" or more... Then again, and .005 the other way. Again, and after it got 0.1" (yes decimal in right place) where the first zero was set, I just stopped it and could feel the wire was pulled off and around the part. (locating in X on a dowel pin and in Y to the square edge of block). Sometimes it would act normal (bumb into material, back up a thou or so and then feed in in .0001 increments, and then in "normal time" yould see the contact and it would stop like yould think. Other times, it would move in at fast feed rate, contact, back out, but only .0005 or so, and never loose contact, and immediately go to "Pos END" and would be notably off. Other times, it would bump it, back off, and slow feed back but just kept feeding in, never showing contact.

I cleaned everything, looking for debris, oil, something... anything... and nada. Took some scotchbrite to surfaces to be sure. No difference. Would just fart around. Then once in a while, Id get it to act normal again. Grabbed ohmmeter, checked continuity from part to table, pin to part, pin to table, and all was very low and within .1 ohm of each other.(using 200 ohm scale). I turned off the wire feed and ran the ohmmeter between the wire and the part, and got continuity where Id expect, but with out the wire feed on, the contact light doesnt operate.

Im guessing that its either a connection where the control reads continuity from the wire and or the table or maybe a card of some nature is going bad? The machine burns just fine (granted Im only doing roughing/single pass cuts so I cant say what it would be like trying to run a skim or three. But no odd wire breaks or issues with finish - its just the edge finding.

I have it running now, as I can get it zeroed out accurately enough for what Im doing now with taking a bit extra time and piddle farting. But I have a couple things to do later today and tomorrow that I would really like to have things acting right (will have to find center on small hole and cant get to the wire to tinker with things.

Any suggestions where the control reads its continuity from the wire and table so that I can check those connections? Or maybe this is a common issue and Im just not thinking about things right and missing the answer? I figured best to start researching now while she is burning.... Thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions for further testing?

Always something to deal with or learn... :confused:

Thanks
Wade

Anyone heard of Prd brand tabletop EDM ?

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I picked up this little machine from a recent auction.It's a small 8 amp table top machine manufactured in the 1970s by PRD
Seattle Washington anyone heard of them ?
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EDM Sinker Schedule Calculator

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I've been searching for the past few weeks for a way to calculate how long a given sinker burn will take. I work for a tool and die shop that mostly makes molds for automotive electrical connectors. Over the past few years our shop has gotten quiet a bit busier and things have become a little crazy with scheduling in EDM. I need to come up with a way to approximate how long each electrode will take so that we don't have to guess anymore, which has not worked very well for us so far. We have Charmille machines and use POCO 200 Graphite most of the time on different tool steels, mainly; S-7,D-2, and H-13. I made a calculator in Excel that calculates the material removal rate using the average amps and uses the volume of material removed to calculate how long it will take. It seems to be close but I know that the MMR does not account for the percentage of time each section of the program runs. I can't attach the spreadsheet to the post but here is a link to it ( EDM time Estimator.xlsx - Google Drive )I was wondering what other shops do to figure out how long a machine will be needed for each burn to avoid over/under scheduling the machines? Does my calculator seem close or am is it too simple for how many factors effect burn time? Thank you in advance for any input.

Agie Wire Cut EDM CUT E600 drop door get stuck Need HELP!!

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Hello everyone!!! as tile. We have agie Ecut600, its use air systems to control actuator up and down. Suddenly the door get stuck at middle position(Its can not be lift up or drop down any longer). it is bend about mechanism when we check visually. Anyone get this problem before, pls give us some advise it would be much appreciated.

Mitsubishi 90 H1

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I have an old Mitsubishi 90 H wire edm that has recently been throwing a Handshake error. It will come up in the middle of running a program. The only way to clear it out is to clear the u and v. And start program all over. Has anyone seen this kind of error before.

Agie Charmilles Progress VP2

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We recently acquired another agie vp2, after the tech installed and set it up, he updated our older agie. After he updated the machine, when you power off the machine and power it back on it looses all of its pickups and wire alignment measurements. Why is it doing this now?

Agie classic wire squaring question

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Hi, I just purchased an 2000 Agie Classic 2S. The machine will be delivered next week. I was wondering how do you square up the wire on this machine. On My Agie AC50 I have several wire squaring fixtures I use with a red and black leads I plug into the machine. Is this the same on the classic?

Peps question with Agie

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I'm trying to program a basic hole using Peps and no-core burning. However, when I fill in the parameters, hit "ok", I get a message: "Kcurve not defined". I can't find any info on the help menu. Anyone come across this before?

Cleaning Sinker Fluid

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Hello all:

I'd like to nail down a kind of solvent to effectively clean Rustlick 500 oil off the parts from my sinker. I was given some fluid that turned out to be kerosene, which did a mediocre job. I'd like something that will effectively dissolve the oil and leave the parts nice and clean, rather than a thin film that needs to be blown off as the kerosene left them.

Thanks in advance!

Agie classic operating software question

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My 2000 Agie classic 2S was delivered to my shop. The only problem is that the two CD's were not. One CD is just the manuals on CD. No problem, all the paper manuals are here. The other CD, I am told is the operating system. They are looking for them but the guy who packed everything is on vacation. Is this CD tailor made for my particular machine or will any 2000 Agie classic disc work if I have to reload the software. Also how do you back up the parameters such as pitch error compensation ? Any reply will be greatly appreciated.

Using coated wire

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We have never used coated wire, but I'm quoting a production job 5 inch thick 17-4 stainless that would be a good candidate. Using .012 wire with perfect flush, what kind of speed increase should i expect? Simple rectangular opening (roughly .750 by .375") , 1 pass, wide open tolerance, probably a .125 start hole. I'd rather not take the salesmens word, looking for real world experience.

Agie Charmilles cut 200 Turn while burm

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Does anyone on here have a cut200 that turns and burns? we are trying to convert from our old sodick aq 325L and cannot get the tech down. The guy who ran the sodick didn't want to show anyone how to use it he got let go. so now im in the dark with the sodick machine. We got a cut 200 a year ago and went to training on it, but no one seems to turn while burn. any help would be awesome since agie charmilles has been no help on the subject. its a cc generator the same as the older charmilles so anyone with that background would be helpful as well. I'm only a year in to the edm world so any help would be appreciated. Also anyone who knows how to program on the sodick would be helpful as well.

Cut 200 Sp HMI control
Sodick AQ 325l LN1W control

CTR Automatic EDM 630

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Does anyone have or ever had/heard of this little portable sinker EDM? My boss used to use this unit to burn out broken taps and drills back in the day. It apparently stopped working properly and no one seems to remember why/how. He apparently used to set it up in our Wire EDM machine on the Z axis head and fill the work tank to help it burn better, used brass as the electrode. It looks like a very simple unit, small power supply box and the head. Has an automatic mode where it apparently does pecking.

Looking for maybe some schematics or any suggestions as to what I could check. Wasn't burning well at all.

Thanks!

Agie Elox Mondo 2 with Futura IV

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Hello

I purchased an edm, it didn't came with manuals.

I tried to contact GF (Agie charmills), no luck with that yet.

Does anybody know how to make it work this machine or who can help me with the manuals?

Any help is welcome

Kerosene as Dielectric

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Saw an old post guy using kerosene in sinker. Can this work? Sounds like lard as cutting oil.
Bob

3R Tooling help

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Bought an old D10 sinker with a bunch of 3r tooling that I can't figure how to use. The chuck in first picture was mounted, magnet works but I don't think it is for the 3r shanks?? What do I need to mount the tooling? In addition there are a bunch of shop made holders as in second picture not sure how they had these mounted but can probably figure something. Help/suggestions appreciated.
Bob
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who else runs a MITSUBISHI MV2400S ADVANCE TYPE 2 WIRE

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so I might be the only one in America that runs a MV2400S ADVANCE TYPE 2 wire edm that's for Europe and has the safety crap...but I took off the European software and loaded the American version instead and disabled the auto manual key turn lock....so its slightly different...but it should be the same in M codes and programming but not might be...you guys overseas do you have one still in Europe software mode.....I was wondering how to turn off the water automatically....you know you can M122 and raise the door and fill tank auto and start job...then it gets done...you shut off cutting by M91 adaptive control off and then...do I add before or after this code....I want to drain the tank and have the water off so it don't spray or have to be turned off manually before draining or it squirts all over if your not there...what codes you guys using and in what order...I cannot get the fluid off and then lower door...the door will lower but fluid still on no matter what...tried M33 and then M58....M75....M77.....M81....M88 and M89....nothing...all works except fluid stays on....do you use the auto manual key turn lock at top of control panel if your still in european mode...have you changed yours to american if you have one...wondering if it might be our machine since it was the first one made I believe...we have a MV2400R regular...this is a MV2400S advance type 2...and have a good holiday if you celebrate one...thanx in advance if anyone knows this...later

Will I see you at IMTS 2016??

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I will be there Monday and Tuesday.
Would love to bump into a few of you.
Betcha I see Mr. Pfluger for sure!!
For those that don't know me, I'm a tall bald guy and will most likely be holding a beer.
Shouldn't be too many guys matching that description there...
Tap me on the shoulder and say, "Hi!".

Jay Crumb

Agie charmilles progress vp2 crash

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Help! Does anyone know of a way to run these machines where it wont crash when there are slugs. I set up a normal job with 10 pockets with stops to take slugs out, and it still crashed. This time it throwed the top head out .025". This machine sucked the slug up in the top head (luckily we had put our dummy toroids in) and arked long enough to burn a notch in the dummy toroid. In our mits fa 10, all slugs fall down, we never have slugs pulled up. This is a recurring problem we are having anytime we run parts with small slugs or small punches. Does agie make a different kind of nozzle to prevent parts or slugs from going in the toroid. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Another issue we are having is when you move the head while the program is active to get a slug out or to manual thread, the machine gets confused and stays manual mode. Only way to clear it out to start again sometimes is to power it down and throw the main breaker. Is there something in events doing this? Agieman i need help!

Mitsubishi FA20S wire EDM not getting a uniform cutting edge.

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Hey guys,

Ever encounter a situation where a 3 cut die hole with about 1~3mm cutting edge not uniform on the front and back(machine table direction).

I've been trying to solve this issue with the application side of the manufacturer and will probably soon get their service side to come down and look into this problem.

Just wondering if there are similar situations that anyone had encounter.

In my case, I'm very sure the problem lies during the first cut which is a 1 degree taper cut. After the 3 cut has been completed, the back of the die hole will always have the cutting edge length that I always get and the front will be aprox. 2mm shorter.

My conclusion is the V-axis having some kinda issue, so anyone has any clue what happen to the V-axis? Hope the vid is able to give an idea of what I'm having trouble with.

Thanks everyone!!!
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